Toots Zynsky discusses Paul Hollister’s contribution to studio glass. Oral history interview with Toots Zynsky, March 22, 2018, Bard Graduate Center. Clip length: 01:58.

Toots Zynsky: I think it probably contributed to it, sure. I mean as soon as, you know, serious articles and serious, critical insight is being published about things, people start going—taking it seriously. So yeah, probably. I mean, we didn’t think about that in those days. Paul [Hollister] would ask questions and we’d answer them, and—but no one was thinking about that. I don’t think Paul was thinking about it, but I don’t know what was on his mind. But he was certainly—it was a help, you know, it was a big help, and anybody taking it seriously was a help. I mean we weren’t thinking about making money [laughs]. We were just thinking about making our work and making better work and being able to do it. And that was the importance too, of a place where many people could work cause it’s ridiculous to run a glass furnace by yourself. You know, that’s the last thing I ever wanted to do. I saw right away how much that would tie me down. I’m sort of fairly nomadic. And I just first of all couldn’t afford a permanent place and knew that I couldn’t afford to make that kind of investment myself, and also knew more than that, that I would be tied to it then. And I saw a lot of people start doing that and wound up, you know, doing a little production to pay for the other and then more and more they were just doing production and never really—they kind of lost track of the other, and I didn’t want that to happen to me. So I think now it’s important again, too, for people to work that way so you don’t get tied to like having to empty that tank while the glass is still fresh, you know, [laughs], when do you go to the beach?