Paul Hollister narrates a 1983 Chihuly Macchia demonstration at NYEGW. Interview with Dale Chihuly and team by Paul Hollister, March 20 and 21, 1983. (Rakow Title: Dale Chihuly interview [sound recording] / with Paul M. Hollister). Clip length: 01:59.

Paul Hollister (PH): [PH talks into the recorder] One guy’s rotating a blowpipe. One guy’s using the jacks. Another guy is using a stick, to—shield the heat—from the guy, Bill [William] Morris, who’s using the jacks. He’s going back into the furnace now. The thing’s about 15 inches long. It’s covered with glass, completely covered first with a sieve that sprinkled it all on the powder and then later picking up on the marver. And then threaded over that, and then put in the dip mold. And now the thing is the size of a—at least the size of a football. And there’s one guy using two paddles, while the other fellow uses the jacks and Morris rotates the thing on the blowpipe. Keep the heat away from the man using the jacks. [pause for 5 seconds] Yes, it’s exactly the size of a football now, with a little knob on the end.

[tape cuts out and back in, lots of background noise with people talking, working, and music playing.]

This by the way is March 20th, and I’m at the [New York] Experimental Glass Workshop, 142 Mulberry [New York, New York]. It’s shaped pretty much like a dirigible now. Morris is using the jacks to knock in. You can hear him knocking in the knob on the end and using the pad to shape it, to smooth it out toward the end while the other guy is [laughs] blowing as the blowpipe rotates and man number three, wearing a black beret, is using a paddle to shield him. It’s pretty big now. It’s almost the size of a basketball now; it’s certainly the size of a soccer ball.