Mary Shaffer discusses Dale Chihuly putting “glass on the map.” Oral history interview with Mary Shaffer by Catherine Whalen and Barb Elam, conducted via telephone, March 21, 2019, Bard Graduate Center. Clip length: 00:26.

Mary Shaffer: But he [Dale Chihuly] was, you know, he was a force. He was an amazing force and he’s the reason that we all make money in the glass world—because he collected people. He collected artists, his students, and he collected collectors, and museum people. And really put glass on the map with his publications.