Mark Peiser discusses how everyone in Penland’s first glass class was a beginner. Oral History Interview with Mark Peiser by Catherine Whalen, February 25, 2020, Bard Graduate Center. Clip length: 00:20.

Mark Peiser: But the class itself, there were—of course, everybody else in that class were total beginners. The whole movement the whole—you know, the expertise of the—you know, at that time, it just wasn’t there.