Jay Musler talks about Marvin Lipofsky encouraging him to move “beyond the bubble.” Oral history interview with Jay Musler by Barb Elam, conducted via telephone, September 5, 2019, Bard Graduate Center. Clip length: 01:06.

Jay Musler: Well, you know, Marvin suggested to me at an early age that I take glass beyond, you know, the bubble. And I said, ‘Oh, okay, I’ll think about that.’ And so it kind of gave me the idea that I can do much more with glass than what can be done on a blowpipe. And that really changed my attitude, and I always kept that, you know, that thought. And I used it earlier on. I mean, I’m not a real trendsetter, I think, in glass. I just did things differently, and people either accept it or they didn’t. And that’s fine with me. But, you know, I just wanted to do—I had all these ideas, and glass was my vehicle.