Flo Perkins talks about the impact of Dale Chihuly making Pilchuk international. Oral history interview with Flo Perkins by Barb Elam, conducted via telephone, August 20, 2019, Bard Graduate Center. Clip length: 00:50.

Flo Perkins: Well, the most brilliant thing that Dale did was get the school to be international. That was brilliant and to get Ulrica [Hydman Vallien] and Bertil [Vallien] over and bring the Italians in, but he didn’t bring the Italians in until the early eighties,’82-3? I’m not really sure. I was having babies. And I sort of missed the initial Italian thing, but Dick [Richard Marquis] got me in a class with Lino [Tagliapietra] at Haystack [Haystack Mountain School of Crafts, Deer Isle, Maine] in—my child is—‘89 maybe? And that’s when I met Lino [Tagliapietra], and met—and understood the Italian thing and I went for three weeks to Haystack, and Lino was a teacher. And that was a crazy experience, but it changed my life. Because I love to blow glass, and I finally saw—he taught me how it works.