Douglas Heller discusses wearing Paul Hollister’s tie as a tribute to him. Oral history interview with Douglas Heller, September 7, 2018, Bard Graduate Center. Clip length: 00:55.

Douglas Heller:  The tie? The tie is a Liberty of London tie. This belonged to Paul Hollister and I always equate a Liberty tie or a pair of red socks or a very flashy lining of a conservative suit with a secret declaration by the person wearing it that there’s more than meets the eye here. I may be dressed in a very conservative manner, but something else is going on. So Paul had a collection of Liberty of London ties. And when he passed, Irene, very generously, went to friends and said, you know, ‘Paul would want you to have a tie, would you like to choose one?’ And when I go to certain events, I wear this tie, it’s a cherished possession of mine. Although, it’s completely antithetical to my usual style.

Jesse Marandy: Let’s zoom out, make sure we—

Mike Satalof: Great.

Barb Elam: Yeah, make sure we—

MS: Gotcha.

[inaudible, JM, BE, MS laugh]

JM: Gonna do a quick zoom out. There it is. That’s nice.