Paul Hollister converses with Bob Banford about his and his father Ray Banford’s work at a 1977 paperweight exhibition at Habatat Gallery. Paul Hollister Recording, October 12, 1977. (Rakow title: Habatat Galleries fall show interviews [sound recording] / with Paul Hollister, BIB ID: 168383). Clip length: 01:55. [note: October 12 date stated by Paul Hollister at beginning of recording]

Paul Hollister (PH): You’ve got, what? How many of you got all together?

Bob Banford (BB):  Of mine? 

PH: This is Bob Banford. Yeah, of yours and your father’s [Ray Banford’s] got about six or eight—11. Gee, you’ve come quite a long way since the last things I see you’re doing—

BB: These are all my dad’s here on this side and mine over on the other side here—

PH: I see.

BB: —Distinguishable by the red, white and blue initial cane inside. 

Geraldine Casper (GC): Well, you do that too. [music playing in the background] I’ve noticed several of them will have their little—

BB: Yeah, we put our initial inside. 

GC: Yes. Yes. 

BB: So they can be identified. 

[indistinguishable voices respond in background]

BB: The new design here, the snake with the tree stump, and another thing we’re working on—

PH: Yes, this is a—

GC: That one attracts me—

PH:  —sort of a piece of driftwood on a, on a yellow pebble ground where the snake—with at least three coils and the head turned around and your signature cane and the vase done in the Egyptian fifth, sixth century BC style where the combing is that actually combed—

BB: Yeah, it’s combed on the outside—

PH: With the vase of flowers? 

BB: Yes. And on the base itself , you have to really look at it, but there is a gold butterfly on the base. It’s kind of hard to see in the case—the angle. 

PH: This is on a pale, blue ground with three Baccarat-like tiny, but very beautiful flowers in a vase that is combed in Egyptian style and there you’ve got to “B” on your old—

BB: Yeah. 

PH: —that’s the old style model “B,” last year year’s “B”.